Hey, Not Ozzie, I'm a big Bob Caylor fan. Leave him alone.
I agree with Anonymous that this race is too close to call and will come down to election day. Can Republicans organize good GOTV ina primary? Do angry people actually get their butts to the polls to vote or do they just have another cigarette and bitch? Do moderate Republicans have any say in their party any more?
These are the questions that will be answered on May 8. I can hardly wait.
I think it's great that the Sentinel endorsed Peters, but I think it's even more important that all the republican elected officials have endorsed him. Whether it's at the city, county or state level. The FOP has also endorsed Peters.
Peters seems to have real plans, Kelty seems to have fantasies. I think Kelty is a nice guy, but that doesn't mean I want him running the city. If Kelty had it his way, I think we'd end up with a hardware store and maybe a new ballet facility downtown. WOW, THAT'S growth!
I watched Kelty's latest campaign ad on the Internet today and in several times it flashes some pro-life endorsements - they are also prominent on his website. This is fine, but I'm struggling to understand what the Fort Wayne mayor has to do with that issue - it seems that would be a more appropriate campaign issue for a state or house representative.
David, Fred Rost, Kelty's campaign co-chair, and the individual who paid for the Zogby poll (as it turns out, there was only one contributor, not the "few business people" Kelty originally stated) is also the president of the Allen County Right To Life organization. I guess Mr. Rost wanted to get his agenda out there too?
I don't think anyone said you should pay attention to anything, we are merely making comments. Is this still America? I would hope that you've been following the race and have done your homework on all the candidates, and will make an INFORMED decision based on what you've learned. Perhaps my opinion differs from yours, I'll try not to be an ass about it. Have a real nice day!
I have said nothing in any of my posts that would make me an ass. It would be nice if people could act civilized to each other, but I guess you find that too difficult. I guess some people just don't have the intestinal fortitude to to discuss things without resorting to name calling. You should be real proud of yourself. Sheesh!
People who know Kelty are absolutely flaberghasted at the thought of him being mayor and scared to death. It is really quite unimaginable. However, not many primary voters know Kelty all that well, and he comes across very good in campaign.
My gut feeling is that he will win the primary and then the race with Henry will be very tight and will have a record number of cross over. There will be a mass exodus of moderate republicans from the GOP camp.
Peters was endorsed by the Journal Gazette as well. The people I've talked with personally are voting for Peters. This may be a close race, but I think Peters will win. Most people can see through the Kelty's smoke screen and know Peters is the only viable candidate. Kelty has no sound plan, only his 'vision', whatever that is, where Nelson has concrete plans and the means to accomplish them.
I think the Kool Aid is being dispensed in Kelty camp, not Henry's or Peters'.
Henry has not been strong in his own district where people know him best. In his last three races he lost, won on a recount against a political lightweight, and beat somebody with no name. Not exactly a launching pad for the city's highest office.
If Kelty wins this primary, Henry will be the next mayor. Kelty has no plan, just a vision and Dave C, you're 100% right, Right-To-Life shouldn't be any part of a mayoral campaign.
Being a good friend of Kelty, I am asured that he will serve as an excellent mayor. If he is able to curb the tax rate, Fort Wayne may retain it's elusive residents. Example, considering Parkview is moving out North, MD's are fleeing. The reasoning is not to be closer to the hospital, although it serves a good execuse. The main reason is taxes, in an area such as Forest Park for an home that retails for $600,000 the tax rate is $8,000. For the same sized and cost of home in Perry township the tax cost is $1,800. The additional factor is that the family has preceived decent shools, saving the families an additional amount of 'chump' change. His ability to maintain hands on relationships with individuals in every sector will have the ability to curb crime and strenghten neighborhoods. This safety factor can aid in the fight against growing trend of gated communities in outlying communities, including the ELUSIVE HONEYSUCKLE addition, where lot prices (excluding homes) cost $125,000 - 210,000. And my third and final project, is the factor that Kelty is for PRIVATE development. I should know I am in the midst of pretty some cool 'retail' development in downtown. More details coming in the next 6 - 12 months. What does Kelty have to do with it? The plans are in his office to be completed. Final thought....Peters reminds me of Linda Buskirk, scary thought!
I have no idea which houses in Perry Township you are referring to; however, your numbers are way off.
I live in a house that has an assessed value of $211,000. I am in Perry Township. I am in the City limits due to the 2003 Pine Valley annexation.
My property taxes this year will be close to $4000.
Also, I prepare taxes for a living. I can tell you that a house in unincorporated Perry Township that is worth $600,000 would pay about $8000 in property taxes; if those same houses are ever annexed their property taxes will increase to about $11,000 per year.
Dear Last Anonymous, why is a 'fight' against ELUSIVE HONEYSUCKLE necessary? Couldn't you describe this project as a PRIVATE (your capitalization) funded project, created by an entrepreneur, required to follow the rules, motivated to take risks and prepare a niche product in a competative marketplace with the goal of improving the community and making a profit? Wasn't Forest Park Blvd an exclusive developement on the outskirts of town at one time? Old Mill Road? What about Pine Valley or Arlington Park? Cherry Hill? Chestnut? Sycamore?
Did anybody see the story on WPTA last night regarding Kelty's puffed up claims about being a Notre Dame walk on in the early 80s? It is on the WPTA website. More of the same, typical Kelty, playing fast and loose with the facts.
Yes, I saw it. Even the Peters' Campaign attempts to go negative backfire. A 25 year old event, and the report repeatedly stresses that Kelty is a graduate of the School of Architecture at Notre Dame and spent some months working out with the football team at the invitation of the coach. Gee, that's AWFUL press. Certainly nothing to compare with Peters' years at IPFW.
If we are going to compare campaign site resumes, I'll pose a question: Can anyone find a phone number, address, website, Chamber of Commerce listing, Better Business Sureau entry or any other information for Summit Human Resource Specialists, Inc., Peters' alleged "successful small business" where he "learned to meet a payroll"?
When I first read about Matt Kelty's Notre Dame football experience on his website, I was impressed. That bit of information in and of itself wouldn't convince anyone that he should be mayor, but it did speak well of his character and tenacity. Being a walk-on for Notre Dame inspires thoughts of "Rudy" - it inspires notions of hard-work and determination. To find out that Kelty misled voters about his experience also speaks volumes. While his detractors will tout it as the crime of the century, and his supporters will dismiss it (despite Kelty's family values posturing), the reality is that while it might not be a deal-breaker, the fact that Kelty distorted the truth will have some impact on undecided voters like myself. It was an unnecessary lie that makes one wonder what else Kelty has been misrepresenting.
This is to the guy blaming the Peters camp for starting bad press on Kelty's fib about being a walk-on at Notre Dame. It was the news-reporter who took interest in that story. It was the news-reporter who investigated the story, called the coaches and talked with Mr. Kelty himself. This has been a clean campaign so far. Please don't start miserable rumors. By the way, are you having trouble finding Mr. Peters credentials? I bet if you asked him, he'd send you all the information you wanted on his schooling and his work experience. You make it very obvious that your in Kelty's camp. Shame on you.
The walk-on at Notre Dame is'nt the only LIE Kelty's has been saying. I saw him on TV on a neighborhodd walk where he was telling a woman that he "was all about lowering taxes". Get real. The man is clueless. There is'nt a politician running who can actually LOWER taxes. At best, they can be kept as low as possible. He also lied when he said no=one in his campaign office knew there was a problem with that huge, ridiculous sign on Main street. The people at the Zoning board said they had call after call about it and repeatedly informed Kelty that it was illegal. He also lied when he told someone in the Republican Headquarters that he's never heard of Dan Turkette aka Angry White Jerk. Turkette works on Keltys campaign. That's what his web-site says. The man is on record as saying that he has visited thousands of homes to talk with people about their concerns. There is no way that could happen. Or is'nt he working anymore? And when he reported to the newspapers that he EARNED $171,000 in contributions, that's so untrue. $148,000 of it was a loan to himself. I hear he took out more money to win this race. How desparate. I think the man shows very bad judgement on so many levels.
Kelty will spend every dime he has to achieve is ego driven goal. If he wins the primary his head will be as large as one of those thanksgiving day baloons. Kelty has played fast and loose on several occasions including the "poll backers" ND football, the illegal sign, the illegal absentee ballots. How can anybody support this guy for mayor?
Kelty lost my vote when it was published in the local newspaper that the sign on the building at the corner of Main St. and Maiden Ln. was illegal because of its size. I called Kelty's headquarters to ask about the sign and Audry indicated that the Kelty campaign had no intentions of taking the sign down, even though they knew it was in violation of city code, until they were "properly" notified by the City. Kelty has promoted himself as an honest christian but he contradicts himself when he knows he is doing something in violation of the law and touts it on his website and does absolutely nothing to rectify the situation. Between the sign incident and the misrepresentation of the Notre Dame walk on - I don't believe he has the honest Christian qualities he says he has. Nelson Peters has my vote.
I have to second Mike Sylvester's comments about you not having a clue about taxes in Perry Township. I live in a house in unincorporated Perry Township that is worth considerably less than 600,000 dollars and my taxes are 2,400 a year.
Great point bringing up the Honeysuckle addition planned for development outside of Leo-Cedarville. Is this the kind of un-checked, private development we as a community are looking for ?
It deeply saddens me that a developer was able to get their hands on some of the area's most pristene wetlands and target it for development.
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Dear Mr. Change, I want Peters to win as bad as anyone, but you cant honestly believe that one newspaper endorsement is that important, can you?
This race is a dead heat and it will be right through election day. Every single vote will count thats for sure.
Does Bob Caylor's opinion count? I think not.
Hey, Not Ozzie, I'm a big Bob Caylor fan. Leave him alone.
I agree with Anonymous that this race is too close to call and will come down to election day. Can Republicans organize good GOTV ina primary? Do angry people actually get their butts to the polls to vote or do they just have another cigarette and bitch? Do moderate Republicans have any say in their party any more?
These are the questions that will be answered on May 8. I can hardly wait.
I'm surprised Steve Shine hasn't proposed drive-thru voting
According to Kevin Knuth, the Indiana State Democratic Party ran a poll of their own and Kelty is 12% points ahead of Peters.
The days of MSM influencing votes has long been over.
Hey, we've been dicked by Richard for 8 years, now you want a Peters?
I think a lot of Kelty's supporters (and I'm not one) would view that as a badge of honor. That's why it doesn't matter.
Hmmm Maybe I'm looking too much into the endorsement...
I think it's great that the Sentinel endorsed Peters, but I think it's even more important that all the republican elected officials have endorsed him. Whether it's at the city, county or state level. The FOP has also endorsed Peters.
Peters seems to have real plans, Kelty seems to have fantasies. I think Kelty is a nice guy, but that doesn't mean I want him running the city. If Kelty had it his way, I think we'd end up with a hardware store and maybe a new ballet facility downtown. WOW, THAT'S growth!
I watched Kelty's latest campaign ad on the Internet today and in several times it flashes some pro-life endorsements - they are also prominent on his website. This is fine, but I'm struggling to understand what the Fort Wayne mayor has to do with that issue - it seems that would be a more appropriate campaign issue for a state or house representative.
Dave C
David,
Fred Rost, Kelty's campaign co-chair, and the individual who paid for the Zogby poll (as it turns out, there was only one contributor, not the "few business people" Kelty originally stated) is also the president of the Allen County Right To Life organization. I guess Mr. Rost wanted to get his agenda out there too?
So I should pay attention to the endorsement of a fading newspaper and bunch of mediocre republican office holders?
I don't think anyone said you should pay attention to anything, we are merely making comments. Is this still America? I would hope that you've been following the race and have done your homework on all the candidates, and will make an INFORMED decision based on what you've learned. Perhaps my opinion differs from yours, I'll try not to be an ass about it. Have a real nice day!
Perhaps my opinion differs from yours, I'll try not to be an ass about it. Have a real nice day!
TOO LATE!
To "TOO LATE" anonymous,
I have said nothing in any of my posts that would make me an ass. It would be nice if people could act civilized to each other, but I guess you find that too difficult. I guess some people just don't have the intestinal fortitude to to discuss things without resorting to name calling. You should be real proud of yourself.
Sheesh!
People who know Kelty are absolutely flaberghasted at the thought of him being mayor and scared to death. It is really quite unimaginable. However, not many primary voters know Kelty all that well, and he comes across very good in campaign.
My gut feeling is that he will win the primary and then the race with Henry will be very tight and will have a record number of cross over. There will be a mass exodus of moderate republicans from the GOP camp.
Peters was endorsed by the Journal Gazette as well. The people I've talked with personally are voting for Peters. This may be a close race, but I think Peters will win. Most people can see through the Kelty's smoke screen and know Peters is the only viable candidate. Kelty has no sound plan, only his 'vision', whatever that is, where Nelson has concrete plans and the means to accomplish them.
All of you Peters Kool-aid drinkers are forgetting that Tom Henry is probably the most qualified candidate to be mayor.
I don't know that he will win though since his support in his own council district for his last three elections was really soft.
I think the Kool Aid is being dispensed in Kelty camp, not Henry's or Peters'.
Henry has not been strong in his own district where people know him best. In his last three races he lost, won on a recount against a political lightweight, and beat somebody with no name. Not exactly a launching pad for the city's highest office.
If Kelty wins this primary, Henry will be the next mayor. Kelty has no plan, just a vision and Dave C, you're 100% right, Right-To-Life shouldn't be any part of a mayoral campaign.
Being a good friend of Kelty, I am asured that he will serve as an excellent mayor. If he is able to curb the tax rate, Fort Wayne may retain it's elusive residents. Example, considering Parkview is moving out North, MD's are fleeing. The reasoning is not to be closer to the hospital, although it serves a good execuse. The main reason is taxes, in an area such as Forest Park for an home that retails for $600,000 the tax rate is $8,000. For the same sized and cost of home in Perry township the tax cost is $1,800. The additional factor is that the family has preceived decent shools, saving the families an additional amount of 'chump' change. His ability to maintain hands on relationships with individuals in every sector will have the ability to curb crime and strenghten neighborhoods. This safety factor can aid in the fight against growing trend of gated communities in outlying communities, including the ELUSIVE HONEYSUCKLE addition, where lot prices (excluding homes) cost $125,000 - 210,000. And my third and final project, is the factor that Kelty is for PRIVATE development. I should know I am in the midst of pretty some cool 'retail' development in downtown. More details coming in the next 6 - 12 months. What does Kelty have to do with it? The plans are in his office to be completed.
Final thought....Peters reminds me of Linda Buskirk, scary thought!
Last anonymous said:
I have no idea which houses in Perry Township you are referring to; however, your numbers are way off.
I live in a house that has an assessed value of $211,000. I am in Perry Township. I am in the City limits due to the 2003 Pine Valley annexation.
My property taxes this year will be close to $4000.
Also, I prepare taxes for a living. I can tell you that a house in unincorporated Perry Township that is worth $600,000 would pay about $8000 in property taxes; if those same houses are ever annexed their property taxes will increase to about $11,000 per year.
Mike Sylvester
Dear Last Anonymous, why is a 'fight' against ELUSIVE HONEYSUCKLE necessary? Couldn't you describe this project as a PRIVATE (your capitalization) funded project, created by an entrepreneur, required to follow the rules, motivated to take risks and prepare a niche product in a competative marketplace with the goal of improving the community and making a profit? Wasn't Forest Park Blvd an exclusive developement on the outskirts of town at one time? Old Mill Road? What about Pine Valley or Arlington Park? Cherry Hill? Chestnut? Sycamore?
Did anybody see the story on WPTA last night regarding Kelty's puffed up claims about being a Notre Dame walk on in the early 80s? It is on the WPTA website. More of the same, typical Kelty, playing fast and loose with the facts.
We will have to refer to this as RudyGate.
Yes, I saw it. Even the Peters' Campaign attempts to go negative backfire. A 25 year old event, and the report repeatedly stresses that Kelty is a graduate of the School of Architecture at Notre Dame and spent some months working out with the football team at the invitation of the coach. Gee, that's AWFUL press. Certainly nothing to compare with Peters' years at IPFW.
If we are going to compare campaign site resumes, I'll pose a question: Can anyone find a phone number, address, website, Chamber of Commerce listing, Better Business Sureau entry or any other information for Summit Human Resource Specialists, Inc., Peters' alleged "successful small business" where he "learned to meet a payroll"?
Kelty's whole resume for mayor is one big exaggeration. He is not ready for prime time.
When I first read about Matt Kelty's Notre Dame football experience on his website, I was impressed. That bit of information in and of itself wouldn't convince anyone that he should be mayor, but it did speak well of his character and tenacity. Being a walk-on for Notre Dame inspires thoughts of "Rudy" - it inspires notions of hard-work and determination.
To find out that Kelty misled voters about his experience also speaks volumes. While his detractors will tout it as the crime of the century, and his supporters will dismiss it (despite Kelty's family values posturing), the reality is that while it might not be a deal-breaker, the fact that Kelty distorted the truth will have some impact on undecided voters like myself.
It was an unnecessary lie that makes one wonder what else Kelty has been misrepresenting.
This is to the guy blaming the Peters camp for starting bad press on Kelty's fib about being a walk-on at Notre Dame. It was the news-reporter who took interest in that story. It was the news-reporter who investigated the story, called the coaches and talked with Mr. Kelty himself. This has been a clean campaign so far. Please don't start miserable rumors. By the way, are you having trouble finding Mr. Peters credentials? I bet if you asked him, he'd send you all the information you wanted on his schooling and his work experience. You make it very obvious that your in Kelty's camp. Shame on you.
The walk-on at Notre Dame is'nt the only LIE Kelty's has been saying. I saw him on TV on a neighborhodd walk where he was telling a woman that he "was all about lowering taxes". Get real. The man is clueless. There is'nt a politician running who can actually LOWER taxes. At best, they can be kept as low as possible. He also lied when he said no=one in his campaign office knew there was a problem with that huge, ridiculous sign on Main street. The people at the Zoning board said they had call after call about it and repeatedly informed Kelty that it was illegal. He also lied when he told someone in the Republican Headquarters that he's never heard of Dan Turkette aka Angry White Jerk. Turkette works on Keltys campaign. That's what his web-site says. The man is on record as saying that he has visited thousands of homes to talk with people about their concerns. There is no way that could happen. Or is'nt he working anymore? And when he reported to the newspapers that he EARNED $171,000 in contributions, that's so untrue. $148,000 of it was a loan to himself. I hear he took out more money to win this race. How desparate. I think the man shows very bad judgement on so many levels.
Kelty will spend every dime he has to achieve is ego driven goal. If he wins the primary his head will be as large as one of those thanksgiving day baloons. Kelty has played fast and loose on several occasions including the "poll backers" ND football, the illegal sign, the illegal absentee ballots. How can anybody support this guy for mayor?
Kelty lost my vote when it was published in the local newspaper that the sign on the building at the corner of Main St. and Maiden Ln. was illegal because of its size. I called Kelty's headquarters to ask about the sign and Audry indicated that the Kelty campaign had no intentions of taking the sign down, even though they knew it was in violation of city code, until they were "properly" notified by the City. Kelty has promoted himself as an honest christian but he contradicts himself when he knows he is doing something in violation of the law and touts it on his website and does absolutely nothing to rectify the situation. Between the sign incident and the misrepresentation of the Notre Dame walk on - I don't believe he has the honest Christian qualities he says he has. Nelson Peters has my vote.
I have to second Mike Sylvester's comments about you not having a clue about taxes in Perry Township. I live in a house in unincorporated Perry Township that is worth considerably less than 600,000 dollars and my taxes are 2,400 a year.
Great point bringing up the Honeysuckle addition planned for development outside of Leo-Cedarville. Is this the kind of un-checked, private development we as a community are looking for ?
It deeply saddens me that a developer was able to get their hands on some of the area's most pristene wetlands and target it for development.
I am going off MLS tax rates.
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